when I switch the law from Gavelkind to Primogeniture in León, I DO get the title loss on succession warning. But when I hover over the kingdom shields in the Law view, the tooltip for each of the kingdoms tells me that my oldest son is 1st in line of succession. Yes, Portugal is still on Primogeniture whereas all my other kingdoms, including my primary one (León), are on Gavelkind. Why does it become harder to change after I've formed the empire? On the other hand, that's not going to happen for a while with an empire. It's possible the guy created the second kingdom before dying, I didn't think to look at the title history at the time unfortunately. One warning with that though - I'm not certain of this (Can you tell I avoid Gavelkind like the plague? :P), but I could swear I've seen it happen - if you have enough land for another title to be created, it will be and be granted to the second son, splitting your realm anyways. If you only have 1 top level title (Empire of Hispania in this case) typically you won't have any territory break out of your realm.ĮDIT: Looked it up and it looks like it can happen, but only if you have "elective gavelkind" instead of "gavelkind" Although, upon succession it should be fairly easy to claim the other kingdoms again - You'll get claims and your primary heir will inherit all your money, retinue, ect. When I have/am stuck with Gavelkind, I try to only keep 1 top level title so my realm doesn't split.
I feel like Leon having high CA is a glitch of some sort though. I'm not sure what's happening with the other titles.
Portugal is probably still on Primogeniture, giving it to your oldest son. Much easier to remove it before you create the empire.Īny created kingdoms/empires will take on the laws of your current primary title. You'll want to get rid of Gavelkind ASAP in my opinion. I don't think it's really meant to happen this way, but wanted to share it anyway.Īlso, if I stay on gavelkind, and form the empire of Hispaña, will I not have to worry about title loss anymore as the kingdoms are part of Hispaña and that empire title will be inherited by my heir anyway? So, albeit some vassals don't really like my as much anymore because I've been switching laws around, in the general sense it's all still exactly as it was but now my oldest kid inherits everything :) Then I noticed that my crown authority in Léon had changed to high as well, and even though I am on Gavelkind, all my titles are still being inherited by my eldest son. Then I switched my primary title back to Léon and changed the succession law back to Gavelkind (gives me an extra demesne). So that's what I did, then I made Portugal my primary title, and changed the succession law to primogeniture. But probably because I hadn't changed the law for that kingdom before, I could actually increase it to high. So I created the title of King of Portugal, which started off at medium authority (I'm guessing because that's where my other kingdoms where at). I couldn't increase it to high either as I had already changed it once with my current ruler. And Gavelkind succession dictates that my titles would be split among all my children.Ĭhanging to primogeniture (where the eldest always inherits everything) was unavailable to me as it requires a high Crown Authority law, and I had only set it to medium. However I was presented with a warning that some of my kingdom titles would be lost on succession as I have more than one child. I'm playing as Léon and my second ruler holds a title to a couple of kingdoms.